Nathan Pfahler: Now, talking about more of the nuances of cabinetry, as far as quality pieces to a cabinet, what are some things that a homeowner that's done with their builder grade cabinetry, but maybe doesn't have $40,000 in the kitchen remodeling budget but still wants to have some of those aspects of semi-custom maybe even custom features, what are some of the things you'd recommend?
Curt Wible: There's really a couple things to think about. First is going to be the door style. And there's generally two types. There's a traditional overlay and a full overlay. A full overlay will cover more of your face frame than the traditional overlay. If you want a clean look, you're really going to need to do a full overlay because if you chop it up, seeing a little bit of the frame, you're not going to have it. So there's one aspect.
Curt Wible: Cabinets typically are made out of MDF or kind of an engineered wood, which is good and sound. Some people would like plywood. So you can have the box of the cabinet, you can typically have an option and you can make it out of plywood if you choose. The other one that people should think about is the dovetail or soft-close drawers. This is a drawer that's made out of solid maple wood. It's got a dovetail joint that the reality is that joint gets stronger every time you open it and use it, which is important when you have a kitchen and you have 50 pounds of silverware in a drawer and you have kids running around slamming it all the time. And then you also have the soft-close. So, as you slam it, it doesn't slam.
Nathan Pfahler: It doesn't slam.
Curt Wible: That's exactly right.
Nathan Pfahler: That's awesome.
Curt Wible: It just slowly closes. The other thing it does is if you have someone in your house that doesn't always close things well, it will also tend to close it for them.
Nathan Pfahler: Pull it in. Okay.
Curt Wible: So you're not having drawers out and different things. So those are some pieces to think about. The other piece is do you want stain, do you want paint? Paint tends to be a little more expensive. And wood is always alive, so it is expanding and contracting with moisture. So one thing to remember about the paint is the joints will always have a little hairline crack. It doesn't matter how good your cabinets are, just because of that expansion and contraction, that will be on there. You're not going to see it as much on stained cabinets, although it is also on those.
Nathan Pfahler: Okay. So, how easy is it to add cabinets to an existing kitchen?
Curt Wible: The answer is depends.
Nathan Pfahler: Okay. Kind of figured.
Curt Wible: Let me go to an example. It's a Pulte home that was built five years ago. Those cabinets are still made, the colors are still available, the door styles are still available, very easy. Now let's go to a house that's 25 years old. Maybe it has some great custom cabinets, still in style, still in good shape. Now more than likely you're going to have to find someone who has the ability to make a custom cabinet, and then they're going to need to match the stain. And that will be a little harder, so there is some need to probably accept not exactness, but it can be done. But custom cabinets take a little longer than the manufacturer that would be used in Pulte, but it can be done. But then you also get price goes up too because now you're custom.
Nathan Pfahler: Sure, because you're custom.
Curt Wible: Not a stock cabinet.